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乔治·马丁加拿大签售活动追踪报道

1 Well! I just got back! I didn't meet up with any fellow BWBers though oh well. there's always next time.

There were a LOT of people there. I arrived at around 6:40, so I was stuck standing in the line toward the middle to end. But that's ok, I dragged my sister along for the ride (who hasn't read the books btw haha don't worry I'm working on that) so I had someone to bug and poke during the wait.

Anyway, to the important stuff. GRRM started off saying how Toronto is like some sort of time portal, because the last time he was here in 2000, he was watching the U.S. elections and turned off the t.v. just after Gore won Florida thinking it was safe to go to bed. He said he hopes that somehow his being in Toronto will reopen the portal and he'll find himself in the second term of Gore's presidency

After that, he discussed the 5 year gap, why it had to be scrapped etc. everything we already pretty much know.

Then some people asked some questions, such as who is the most underrated character. GRRM didn't REALLY answer that question, just saying he knows who readers don't really like (he mentioned Sansa and Catelyn, but I like them both ) and that Arya, Jon Snow and Tyrion are most people's favourites.
Someone asked about Tywin and whoring but he said he couldn't answer those kinds of questions from a platform and they will be better resolved in future books. (ooh cryptic)
Someone else asked about turning ASOIAF into an HBO series and GRRM said maybe in the future if HBO comes to him etc.

Ummm that's all I can remember right now from the questioning...
I waited in line for about an hour and a half, got my book signed, GRRM was really nice etc. anyway, off to read some Shakespeare and hit the sack! Hope all you BWBers who met up had fun and had a few (and more) drinks to make up for my absence.
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Been home for about an hour now. It was fun  Not much to add to Warg's post other than me being the someone asking about Tywin and being very upset with George's answer  There was more than 500 people that showed up for the signing. They actually had people lining up around the bookshelves through one side of the store. It was great!

lets see...who actually met up from around here

Arwen said hi right away when we first sat down she's a really sweet lady, Prophet was with me, ran into Banditski, met Dutch (who pulled a houdini on us and disappeared), Skryer met up with us at the pub later on and so did Moot  Had a couple drinks, talked everyone's ears off, and then wandered home.

It was great meeting you guys  we'll have to try it sometime on a night other than Monday

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Sorry about that, I called my wife and discovered that my two year old was refusing to go to bed without "see daddy"  so I had to book it.

Mich what was the guy in front of me in lines name? Ser guy or something? Bugger mentioned the Giants game which left George scowling through my turn, even after I told him that life wasn't all bad, some of us are Browns fans. 

Anyway, had a good time, George was entertaining, though I expected him to be a bit more lively. Not sure why, just what I expected. Had a nice chat with Ser Guy (Again, I think) after he proved he was smarter than the average bear and sat down in the empty seat beside me in the front row rather than line up somewhere around spot 350. Couldn't figure out why no one else did that, I'm guessing people were afraid to look shabby next to the stylish no frills bag.

Anyway, nice to meet you Mich, and also Ser who for lack of anything defninite is henceforth dubbed ser guy.

Cheers
Dutch
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要是HBO去找GRRM就好了,非常想看到拍成影视~~
GRRM自己可以做编剧~
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All right, here comes the drool.

The signing was taking place in one of the bookstores downtown Calgary in a large cafee they have upstairs there. It was cozy, but unlike Toronto, nobody had to be packed in the rows between the bookshelves.

George Martin gave an hour or hour and a half talk, answered some questions from the audience, and then signed our precious books!



The most important thing first: Martin was touring since October, so he had not done much progress on the Dance With the Dragons. However, he is sitting on 500-600 pages taken out of the Feats, and (well, last time he was three years late) he wants to try to finish by the summer, so that the book can be published in the end of 2006. Or the beginning of 2007… Well, the main thing, he said, do not believe anything amazon tells you! On the daily updates: It would give people heart-attacks to read that he ripped apart twelve pages, so he is a week back on what had been written.

Alright, now to the rest of the stuff: he started with saying that he is disappointed in Calgary – last time he was touring, it was with the Storm of Swords, and we had –40 C, so it greatly helped him in the writing about the Wall. Yes! We, calgarians, sure did our best there!

Then he went on remembering his very first signing tour that started in Texas – a mistake right there – where he had 20 or so people in Houston, 30 in Austin, and then, when he came to Dallas, why, there was a good crowd… for the signings done by a dog – some sort of a children character, I suppose, a big stuffed toy costume and all that. He had two people. J

Then he started talking about the questions he is usually asked to get it out of the way. In regards to the advice for the inspiring writers were: don’t start with the epic, write short stories with the beginning, middle and end, and experiment with them; learn write about the painful things; read a lot, and of every gender and persist.

Killing characters: He writes the books that he wants to read. Meaning, the books that you know how they’ll end on page 5 (told a joke about his mother who could predict very well how the next episode of I love Lucy will end in the very beginning, and how he got good at it soon too, and got bored). And the books that allow emotional attachment to the characters.

Ideally, Martin said, I want you to drop through the book cover and be in the middle of the book, on the battlefield when the characters are fighting, or in the bedroom when they step there. Obviously, it’s not what’s going to happen, because you will still be sitting in your chair or in your bathtub – bad idea, the books are too heavy, and you will drop them. But, the magic is to make it real.

Well, if you are polite, you will call it a work of a magician, and if you are impolite – a fraud. (He likes this idea, actually; on the prior conference, he opened his “Why do we like to read GoH’s speech with the “I am a liar.”

Here, he also gave a lovely a little speech on gratuitous; people often ask why there are so much gratuitous in his books – gratuitous heraldry, gratuitous feasting, gratuitous sex. Not many, he said, object to the gratuitous feasting though… What, would he ask do you call gratuitous? Well, they’d say, when it does not advance the plot. Martin’s reply is that he can hand out the 20 page summaries of the plot, but he does not believe that it what the readers want; it’s not what he wants in a book – he’d read plenty which were just that: plot advancement. He want the reader to get hungry when the characters feast, and horny when they make love… or disgusted, as the case might be. Fear. He was talking about the rollercoaster movies and books – comparing the adrenaline rush you get while perfectly safe and the “real” fear, the one that one experiences in the face of death. Talked about us watching Indiana Jones killing 424 Nazis, and knowing that not a single one is going to blow the back of Indi’s head of….

While in his universe, Westeros, the world is dangerous, so if Tyrion faces 424 Nazis he is in real trouble – first, because there are no Nazis in westerous, and second, because he is a dwarf, so facing two, or even just one guy with a big axe is a challenge for him, and who knows if he emerges alive. That’s by the way, why he kills the characters – do it early on, and you achieve the suspense. The reader should not know what happens next, he needs to want to see what happens next.

But, he hates killing his characters. If you thought it was painfull for you to read the Red Wedding, maybe you hurled the book into the wall, well, it was more painful for him to read. The Red Wedding was the last scene written, before he had to submit the manuscript to the publisher.

Questions from the audience:

On keeping notes and writing the backstory: No, Martin does not keep outlines (did it in his TV’s days and hated it). he knows where he is going, but he puts everything he has pretty much in the books. Said, he gets e-mails sometimes from Tolkien devotees, asking him about the structure and grammar of Old Valyrian. Said: “I created eight words in High Valyrian. When I need the ninth I will create it.” of course, he said, most authors like to pretend that they are Tolkines, keeping manuscripts and manuscripts of the world creation. But, it’s not the case. Tolkien is an exception. It is not like an iceberg. It is more like a float onto which the writer piled a bit of ice. When he needs the iceberg to look taller, well, he’d add more ice.

That answers the question that is asked of him: “What if you die before finishing the books?”

Well, I don’t want some f*cking hack to finish my book! You will have to hope that I live long enough.

Now, how does he keep track of all those characters? A gift, he guesses. He is bad in the real life with remembering people; he won’t remember the guys who stand in line twice to sign more copies (he signs three per person per time); but he happens to remember the name of the captain of the guard in the Highgarden
Speaking of the names, someone asked about the names. Different ways, some invented, some altered. He praised Tolkien, who does not just have one wonderful name, but six of them; also mentioned Vance in that respect.

He said it still amazes him that people call their babies after their characters, but he is slightly apprehensive as well. In the “Beauty and the Beast” days, when one of the cast, called Catherine resigned, they killed her, and introduced a new character. So, one of the outraged phone calls was from a tearful, weeping woman, telling the writers that they killed her baby, because she named it after the character J He said, be careful, you like the character now, but what about in three books? (Domi: conclusion: name children after the dead characters)

He was also asked about how his book started. Pretty much with Bran’s chapter. The Wall is inspired by his visit to the Hadrian’s wall, but since his was bigger, it had to guard the realm against someone fiercer than Scotts (not that Scotts aren’t fierce).

Oouf!

So, in the end, I happily got my autograph; I asked him to write “Don’t cry when Jaime dies.” but he laughed and said “it will be giving too much away” and signed: “Don’t cry when _________________ dies” He left a hellishly long line there too, to fill in!

Hey, did I bore you all to death yet?

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OK! These are some after thoughts from the Vancouver-Chapters, a meeting with George RR. Martin...

He started with a short speech. About some of his thoughts on fictions, and more specifically, fantasy fiction. Some people have criticized fantasy fiction is more or less, “Escapetism”... It is not real; it’s a story about a society that never existed, creatures that never walked on this earth, and people that were never born… But Martin disagrees. He compares how human memory falters, and how past things cease to exist. How can one tells the difference between fiction and false memory? He correlates from his own experience. Martin was always summarized by members of his family, as a “person with his nose in a book”. Anywhere he goes, he would be reading. He initially took interest of literature (fantasy speaking) when he started reading Conan. Then comic books also made an impact to his life. THEN, LOTR arrived. It made such an impact to his life, he mentions that to this day, he can clearly remember scenes from LOTR (one scene he mentions was, when the hobbits met Strider), but fails to remember most of his classmates when he was in grade 9. Anyways, his point was that he believes all fictions are “Escapetism”. But that doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing. To imagine you’re someone else, to fall into the pages of a book, and be in the shoes of a character, allows one to enrich his/her life. You’re still Sam, John, Peter, or Mary in real life (excuse my stereotype names), however, you can as easily as be a swordmaster such as Dayne, or a kingslayer such as Jaime in your imagination

Then, there was the Q&A…

I asked if Mr. Martin would consider retirement anytime soon and if he would consider taking a vacation or a break before he finishes the series. Thank God, he answered no. Although as much as he enjoys the aspect of traveling to different countries (he did mention, that he would really like to visit the Great Wall in China), he still considers finishing his current series as his first priority. Still he has to fulfill his promises to attend different book tours and gatherings.

A person asked Mr. Martin, which character does he find the most difficult to write. I was surprised when Mr. Martin answered it was Bran. There are a couple reasons. First, he doesn’t have any kids. It proves to be difficult for him to fall into the mindset of a child and think of what a child at Bran’s age would say, act, and think. Second, Bran is a special character among the POVs. He does not rely on this prowess in battlefield to involve in the story. Although Bran wants to, but he can not hop on a horse and ride into the battlefields. Bran would mostly need to rely on others, and make his impacts to them. He needs people that can fight for him and take care of him(hint hint). Thirdly, he’s one of the unique POVs that has a direct relationship with Magic. This actually leads to another question… Differ from many books of the fantasy genre, in asoiaf, magic is not the elemental factor in the story line. There are certainly histories and rumors of magic usage in the book, but it’s not predominant. Mr. Martin’s perspective on this is that he thinks of “Magic” or “Magical creatures” as the spices or “salts” that one puts in a soup. Too much of it, makes the soup itself salty or spicy. With the moderate amount, “Magic” enhances the tastes and the richness of the whole fantasy store…

There were quite a few questions, but all I can remember now are the ones that amused me the most. Someone also asked Mr. Martin, if he can choose to live the life of one of his characters, who would it be? Mr. Martin answered, if he gets to retain all personalities, characteristics, and skills of that character, he would pick Dany. It would be hard to resist being the most beautiful (single) lady in the world, and possessing the last 3 dragons in the known world. I found that quite interesting. 

Another fan asked this interesting question. He wants to know, after making so many bets with his friend, what is the correct pronunciation of the name, Jaime. And… the answer is… it is a disyllable, Jai-me, according to Mr. Martin, contrary to the monosyllable pronunciation, Jaime.

Mr. Martin has also offically annouced there won’t be any plans for the 5 years-jump to happen in A dance with dragons. As he said, he initally thought of the idea, but he lingered on this decision for far too long, until he finally discovered it won’t work. Definitely it would give the much needed time for the younger POV to grow and develop, but what would happen to the other POVs? He gave the crowd a good laugh, when he put John and Stannis’s POV on this analogy. So John would say, “Hmm, as soon as I become Lord Commander, things have turned quiet. No wights, no widlings, no nothing but staring at Stannis for 5 years”. Also, it would be quite lame to have chapters of POV having flashbacks, to review events that happened in this span of the past 5 years. Anyways, he has decided to trash the whole idea of skipping the story of 5 years. (that’s what he said tonight anyways.

That’s all I can recall right now, hopefully, anyone that has attended tonight’s gather can fill in other points that I have missed or erred.
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So here's my report from the CBC Book club event in Vancouver (for our international friends, the CBC is the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation - public radio and tv and I cannot live without it!)

The event was not all that well attended....I was shocked! I arrived quite early, so got a front row seat. The event was moderated by Sheryl McKay (a local radio host - most excellent) and John Burns (book editor for a local paper)
George came in, and joked about the weather...its been raining here for a month solid, bad even for the Wet Coast. It went well with the first chapter - the Cersei one, on the way to the funeral, with all the rain. After, Sheryl and John made some comments and posed some questions.

J commented on how G's reading aloud conveyed the gamesmanship and paranoia on every page and asked G if he found imagining and writing all that intrigue exhausting. G said no, not that part of writing, he actually enjoys that part quite a bit. He writes books that he would want to read and finds alot of fantasy deficient because everyone is as they seem-called it lazy writing; said we all wear masks and people are complex--they have heroism and monstrosity. The exploration of character is the most interesting aspect of people and he tries to celebrate it in his books.

S - commented on how he offs his main characters. G - fiction is too predictable, esp in fantasy, where you know a main character will survive, no matter how many orcs are chasing him. G is not interested in this fiction of comfort- wants to shake up readers, make the danger feel real.
S - wanted to know how readers felt about it
G - most love it

J - commented on sex in the books
G -says there should be more sex in fantasy, more sex in life; gets more letters of complaint about sex than about death, G marvelled that "the penis obscene while the ax is just cool fun"; said that anything gratuitous is that which does not advance the plot directely, but big deal - plot alone makes a 20 page book; he wants you to smell the smoke and food at a feast, see the fools - trying to do complex characters...you need to show it--cant just say "this character here is complex, you know"

then he talked a bit about oaths, and how they are lost in modern life. the books grapple with this

after a few more questions/comments, the floor was opened, and the first question, I kid you not, was "who are Jon's parents"

In response to another question about why this book took so bloody long, G admitted to mistakes in structure. he talked about Tolkein, and how he did something great in LotR by starting with the Shire, which is the whole world at the beginning, and when the story grew, so did the world. He is trying to do this, and from the beginning had planned to introduce new parts of this world, and new characters - found himself with too many balls in the air but he needed to keep them there, otherwise they would fall on his head 

Next question was on POV's and whether G was worried about creeping Jordanism
G - Only one new one in DwD - see above for juggling analogy; he's gonna kill some off too. He wants all POV's to have a story arc even A VERY SHORT ARC (a significant statment, I thought); some readers were displeased with all the new ones in Feast....wanted old familiars, but the new ones were neccessary geographically. With Dorne and the Iron Islands he had originally tried each with one single POV, but it wasnt working, hence more delay.

Then he read a second chapter, the Captain of the Guards. Afterward, talked about Dorne a bit....separated physically and culturally, but joined due to a dynastic marriage.
Question from John:
what was the hardest thing in writing about such an alien world
G - the vast majority of fantasy is middle agey time wise, and he himself finds the period fascinating; glad to adopt it for novel writing - likes knights and castles and such. He objects to bad fantasy practice which adopts a time setting without accepting the culture - imposing 20th century values like the cheeky stableboy telling off the princess (in reality cheeky stableboy would lose his tongue - look what happend to Micah); the class system was not just and ornament and these people truly belived in blood, and the rank and priviledge that came with "good" blood. He discussed the role of women - in bad fantasy where the princess refuses to marry the old ugly fart - women were raised to accept this as their fate (ie Sansa and Tyrion); he castigated the warrior princess in a chainmail bikini, who in that reality would get chopped in two with a longsword. You needed brute strength to fight a la middle ages (voila Brienne); but women could fight with other weapons (sand snakes), it was just very very rare.

Question from Sheryl:
Heard that the series came from an image of direwolves and winterfell
G - yes, and the growth of the story from there was very exciting....he sees his writing style as being more like a gardener...planted a seed and watered it and let it grow, as opposed to writers who are like archtects, who plan everything out before they write the first word.

Audience questions on maps and size and population- we've heard it before.

Question on characters - very similar to characters from classical literature - is it intentional?
G- everything he experiences goes into the hopper, gets ground up and comes out in the books; but he tries not to draw direct analogues.

Question - have the mechanics of scriptwriting affected his fiction writing?
G - improved strength of structure and dialogue; his practice of repeated cliffhangers is directly from tv writing - act breaks - but- he is anti hollywood in many ways- his work is too long, too extravegant and has too many battlescenes for film/tv...fiction allows him to indulge his love of scale and detail.

Question (from yours truly) what the hell is with Biter? Is he just a bad guy or is he something more....
George treated us to a never before heard back story of Rorge and Biter.....Rorge ran a dog and bear fighting place in Flea Bottom. Biter was an orphan whom Rorge grabbed up and raised ferally to fight in the pits. ( I was most pleased to actually elicit something totally unknown)

DwD? Hoping for early 2007. Going home to write now.

George buggered off right away- he had the chapters gig in a few hours and likely wanted dinner and some quiet time. Hope he availed himself of our world class sushi. I didnt go to the chapters gig - a was a bit worn out and had my head full - funny aside...the library where I work is across from the CBC building, so I went in the staff entrance thinking I'd hop on a computer and do this report. I was so distracted by my musings about the reading that I got to the 6th floor before I realized that the library was closed. duh!

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