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塔希里亚故事集
作者:吴淼
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恢弘的魔幻世界，严酷的魔法战争，传奇的爱情故事，发人深省的哲理寓言。《塔希里亚故事集》带给你的是前所未有的智慧阅读。你的头脑准备好掀起风暴了吗？
在这个被虚构出来的、气势磅礴的塔然里亚世界中，生存着一群智慧的强者；法师、巨龙、精灵、矮人……
他们生存着、战斗着、恋爱着、思考着……生的意义何在？死后去向又是何方？在塔希里亚的世界里，你要用心去感受，去思索，去品味……
本书一改魔幻文学惯常创作思路，摒弃虚幻无谓的格斗厮杀，而以深邃的探索、思索见长。与这些思索遥相呼应的，是风格独具的绘画。作者利用剪影绘画技巧，营造出一个深沉凝重的塔希里亚世界。
它是简约的，又是丰润的，它是魔幻的，也是烂漫的。它不仅开创“幻·影小说”之先河，也在一个另类魔法传奇故事中，感悟生命，思索生命，创造生命。 话说这会不会被海岸巫师的律师团告到当裤子…… [quote][b]引用第1楼[i]堕落的梦[/i]于[i]2007-11-28 12:37[/i]发表的“”[/b]:
话说这会不会被海岸巫师的律师团告到当裤子……[/quote]
???
不好意思，小弟没看懂您什么意思... 挖卡卡,直接要签名的~~~ [quote][b]引用第2楼[i]drow[/i]于[i]2007-11-28 12:39[/i]发表的“”[/b]:
???
不好意思，小弟没看懂您什么意思...[/quote]
记得里面貌似有眼魔的
眼魔是WOTC的专利怪物
不要被人告侵权就好 好像没有点名这是眼魔 问题是太像了就会有形象侵权的问题。海岸巫师在这个问题上向来是不含糊的。 幻·影小说，恩恩。
这段编辑推荐虽然有些俗套，不过总体来说还算不错。 封面……这封面好囧，与书的内容好不搭调…… 长很多眼睛的肉球和章鱼头都不能随便画来卖，唔～ 不必担心侵权的问题。
之前的确有跨国公司告大学生的官司：比较著名的是迪斯尼（貌似也可能是EMI）曾控告斯坦福（貌似也可能是南加州）计算机系一个大四（貌似也可能是大三……）学生开发的校内网文件共享系统助长其唱片盗版并达成庭外和解。
1，这人比较NB，他不止是使用和发布有版权问题的音乐这么简单，他“制作传播侵犯我的当事人权益的工具”；
2，他们的做法不过是杀鸡儆猴，为了恐吓还在用BT、FTP下歌的学生；
3，他们的赔偿金额定的真TM合理：他们事先调查到此生靠平时勤工俭学赚来3万多美元积蓄，就把和解赔偿金额定在3万元，最后软硬兼施终于成功达成和解。
所以吴大不会吃官司的理由：
1，WOTC和迪斯尼……which one is bigger and more inclined to bully innocent people？
2，侵权官司要来侵权发生地打（我不确定……我法律基础课63分……[-_-]），为了一本印数四位数左右的同人本里出现几个个长得比较像眼魔的玩意儿漂洋过海来玩儿逆转裁判真人版……真不划算……
3，即使Beholder®是美利坚合众国的注册商标，但也自动成为中华日人民共和国的注册商标了么？（貌似打错了，人家不是故意的，真的）
4，在下在联邦政府专利和商标办公室主页（[url]http://www.uspto.gov[/url]）全美商标数据库搜索Beholder®得到的6条相关记录：
1）Beholder®是一家俄资公司的PCI接口电视信号调谐卡和其他计算机用部件的品牌；
2）"WHERE BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER"被某化妆品公司持有；
3）和2）重复，看来这个数据库系统……算了，大概是为了节约公民的税金把网站设计给外包去罗马尼亚了吧XD
4）EYE OF THE BEHOLDER（这不是《魔眼杀鸡》么？）被个人持有，搜了一下，貌似是个职业摄影师，她人住在北卡罗来纳；
5）这个是比较有意义的结果：THE BEHOLDER，范围是on-line computer comic book，可惜持有人是NABISCO BRANDS COMPANY CORPORATION，而且[color=RED]已经失效[/color]
6）RUBY BEHOLDER，是一种……嗯……布料染色亮度计……
为了保险起见，我设置Google为仅显示英文内容，搜索了trademark + beholder，没能找到一条有意义的结果。
结论：我怀疑“WOTC注册了Beholder商标”这个说法的真实性。
（我本想搜一把灵吸怪……可是我不会拼的说……[-_-]）
5，《塔希里亚故事集》说不定能培养一部分同好，对你的DnD产品线在大陆的推广只有好处没有坏处……还是你们还在指望盛大和天人互动？
6，先例：The Order of The Stick不也顺顺当当地出单行本了么？
PS
[quote]网络点击量突破千万[/quote]
我说这是咋回事儿……吹牛也不能这样，吴大也不会同意你们这么搞的吧 他们要告的话不等于帮忙炒作么？虽然没E文版也没老外能看，至少这边有谈资了 你们吓到我了…………不过我又没标明，何况只是个剪影…………虽说第一个故事是想向dnd致敬的…………
难道我要删掉一个故事吗：（ 只是想说……不如抛开dnd直接去找那些源头……
用希腊罗马北欧神话就万事大吉了……
不就一个眼魔吗……号称是个百眼巨人变种不就结了…… 唔，发现《门牙》
要单凭那宣传语录和封面设计啥的，这书必然会被我过滤掉。
还好咱看中的不是外表是内涵。
恩 [quote]The beholder is considered "Product Identity" by Wizards of the Coast and as such is not released under its Open Gaming License.[1][/quote]
NOT a trademark, NOT a registered trademark as well.
[quote]Unlike many other Dungeons & Dragons monsters, the beholder is an [color=RED]original[/color] creation for D&D, as it isn't based on a creature from mythology or other fiction. Rob Kuntz's brother Terry thought up the beholder, and Gary Gygax detailed it for publication.[3]
The beholder was later altered by TSR artist Keith Parkinson, who gave it plate-like armoured scales and anthropod-like eyestalks. Jeff Grubb cites Keith Parkinson's artwork as the inspiration for the beholder-kin created for the Spelljammer campaign setting.[4][/quote]
NOT based on a creature from mythology.
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Beholders in Other Media:
* A beholder appears in the interactive movie Scourge of Worlds: A Dungeons & Dragons Adventure.
* Two beholders are seen briefly in the 2000 motion picture Dungeons & Dragons.
* The Dungeons & Dragons TV cartoon series featured a beholder in the 1983 episode, Eye of the Beholder.
* Beholders appear in a number of Dungeons & Dragons computer and video games, most notably the Eye of the Beholder series.
* The movie Big Trouble in Little China has a floating monster that resembles a beholder, though it is not described as such.
* Beholders are also present in the Might and Magic and Heroes of Might and Magic series but tend to differ a little in form. Generally represented with tentacles for legs and a smaller body than in Dungeons & Dragons.
* In the Ultima computer role-playing games, there exists a beholder-like monster called a gazer; when slain, it explodes into a cloud of bees (possibly a pun on "bee holder").
* In the Tibia (computer game) as a magical creature. There are also Elder Beholders and Gazers.
* The very similar Cacodemon from the Doom series of first-person shooters was inspired by D&D's beholders and by the cyclopean astral dreadnought from the Manual of the Planes.
* In Dungeon Siege, there are creatures named Furies that closely resemble beholders.
* A Beholder appears on a special level of the NetHack offshoot Slash'EM. The original NetHack game has "floating eyes", which appear somewhat Beholder-like, but actually gained their inspiration from an entirely different Dungeons & Dragons species.
* In Age of Wonders, the Azraks can train beholder units. Also, beholders sometimes guard caves, castles, prisons, etc.
* In Westwood's Nox, Beholders guard an underground temple. They can partially paralyze the hero, making him slow to walk, and can emit dangerous bolts of energy.
* The Futurama episode How Hermes Requisitioned His Groove Back features a beholder who "guards" the Central Bureaucracy. It is a Grade 11 bureaucrat.
* In the anime Bastard!!, Dark Schneider defeats a beholder referred to as a "Suzuki Dogezaemon". This was possibly due to a naming controversy between the publishing right holder and the publisher of manga. In the initial print of manga, when a beholder initially appears, it is called beholder but this name was changed for all other prints.
* The computer roleplaying game series Geneforge includes a creature called the Gazer, which is a beholder. A variant of the Gazer is the Eyebeast.
* The roguelike game Angband includes a variety of different types of beholder, including the unique beholder "Omarax, the Eye Tyrant".
* A series of monsters in Final Fantasy Legend 3 for Game Boy had the appearance of Beholders, but were not so described.
* Beholders appear as enemies in Pazuzu's Tower in the game Final Fantasy Mystic Quest. They are simply a more powerful version of a previous enemy known as a Gather. This Beholder looks like a large eye supported by numerous thin tentacle-like pseudopods; it has the ability self-destruct, attack with a pseudopod, create a blinding flash of light, and reflect magical attacks.
* The original Japanese Famicom and MSX versions of Final Fantasy had creatures called beholders and eyes that looked like the traditional beholder. However, for the US release and later editions, the sprite was changed and the beholders were renamed.
* A beholder appears briefly in The Order of the Stick [1] along with a mind flayer as a joking reference to the non-inclusion of "product identity" monsters in the Open Game License materials and SRD.
* In Teen Girl Squad #11 from Homestarrunner.com, Beholders are mentioned by D & D Greg in an argument with Science Fiction Greg.
* A Beholder-like creature appears in the computer game Fate as a monster called a Watcher.
* A Beholder-like creature appears in the 1987 computer game Dungeon Master (computer game), the first real time 3D computer role-playing game. This beholder casts lightning bolts to attack players, as well as casting Zo spells to open doors.
* A Beholder-like creature appears in the 1989 first person, real-time RPG adventure Bloodwych [2].
* Several kinds of Beholders appear as aerial enemies in Drakengard and Drakengard 2.
* Beholders appear regularly throughout the RPG Baldur's Gate 2. All but one are hostile. The exception to the rule being a Spectator, whom you have to persuade to let you retrieve an item from a chest it is guarding.
* A traditional Beholder appears in the game Argentum Online. They occasionally reside in forests, and are found in Dungeon Dragon, one of the game's dungeons. Their visual range is extremely far, and while they have no spells, defeating them can be very difficult, as they are immune to magic.
* A beholder appears on page 67 in the online comic Looking For Group.
* Beholder-like creatures appear in the computer game "Shadow of the Prophecy" by SSI. Most as bad, some are good though.
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About 80% items from the above list are unlicienced reference and WOTC has yet been busy firing law suits against any of them.
So, why worry? [quote][b]引用第12楼[i]wc31415[/i]于[i]2007-11-29 13:07[/i]发表的“”[/b]:
你们吓到我了…………不过我又没标明，何况只是个剪影…………虽说第一个故事是想向dnd致敬的…………
难道我要删掉一个故事吗：（[/quote]
哇！原来吴兄也有在这里出没的啊~
[quote][b]引用第8楼[i]影子[/i]于[i]2007-11-28 20:33[/i]发表的“”[/b]:
封面……这封面好囧，与书的内容好不搭调……[/quote]
是啊是啊！我也超不喜欢这个封面......
本来吴兄画的那个小斯的封面我超喜欢的说，可惜没被采用......
[quote][b]引用第11楼[i]rakshasa[/i]于[i]2007-11-28 23:14[/i]发表的“”[/b]:
他们要告的话不等于帮忙炒作么？虽然没E文版也没老外能看，至少这边有谈资了[/quote]
对啊对啊，如果真的告起来，这本书一定会脱销的，hoho...... [quote][b]引用第8楼[i]影子[/i]于[i]2007-11-28 20:33[/i]发表的“”[/b]:
封面……这封面好囧，与书的内容好不搭调……[/quote]
总比编辑给弄的版本好多了…… 已经入手了，心情大好 看来又要去书店转一圈了～～ 有谁能翻译一下那个英文回帖…………好长啊 [quote][b]引用第20楼[i]wc31415[/i]于[i]2007-11-30 11:41[/i]发表的“”[/b]:
有谁能翻译一下那个英文回帖…………好长啊[/quote]
引用部分来自wikipedia（我会翻墙乜~~）
1，不是商标；
2，是TSR/WOTC原创怪物；
3，一个长长的列表里80%是未经授权的“非法”使用；
各种游戏、卡通、漫画里Beholder满天飞，纷纷套上“Gazer”（与Beholder同义），“Elder Watcher”（与Beholder同义），“Evil Eye/Eye Monster”（与“眼魔”同义），“Bee Holder”（冷笑话）等等千奇百怪的马甲出现。我推测只要作品内没有出现被称为“Beholder”的Beholder，就是说换个名字（或者说根本就没有名字），WOTC拿你一点办法都没有。 lz的帖子里
一会儿塔希里亚，一会儿塔然里亚
到底是什么 原来内容被改动过了么= =,有点失望.
已经订了.... 书已到手~~~
总体感觉还不错~~ 谢谢大家支持并帮我多多传销…… 有签名本卖么，嘿嘿 [quote][b]引用第11楼[i]rakshasa[/i]于[i]2007-11-28 23:14[/i]发表的“”[/b]:
他们要告的话不等于帮忙炒作么？虽然没E文版也没老外能看，至少这边有谈资了[/quote]
只要他们一告，立马红，哈哈。肯定有媒体会报道，然后就会有一群人去找那本书看。 嗯 今天已經收到了~~ 哈哈哈 心情大好！ 这个，上海书城有卖么? [quote][b]引用第25楼[i]wc31415[/i]于[i]2007-12-02 22:35[/i]发表的“”[/b]:
谢谢大家支持并帮我多多传销……[/quote]
妖精我昨天已经买了第二本送人了。
估计妖精我还会再买好几本吧…… 现在只有南京能买到签名书？ 没错！哇哈哈哈哈哈哈哈 偏心啊偏心啊= =
顺说,去书店的第一次没有买到,因为想当然地只看了推荐区...第二次没有买到,因为只找了前排书架..
昨天终于买到了..在书架下排的角落里...= =
网络的宣传要好得多,我还没有推荐的时候,就已经有很多人荐给我了=^^= 这本书很棒
作者可以去尝试联系一下版权代理，争取海外出版
先做一些翻译工作 等世界体系和故事在多点在考虑这问题吧，现在顾不了许多了 很好的书啊....
入手就读完了.......还真是短了点 网上订了，等送来ING……
还是怨念地想要签名啊签名……最好还附带豺狼小像那种~~~~ 已经买到读完的某矮人飘......
不理解为什么要把背景设定放在书的最前面.......
那么长很容易让人失去兴趣......不适合诱拐LOLI啊...... 妖精你是最好的妖精！感动阿
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